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Ms.
Greenlee - First of all, the defense spending during the last decade
(including the "unfunded wars") has been lower than than defense
spending in the 60's through the 90's. You may not like these facts,
but there it is. You put up the usual
"strawmen" and liberal cliches as your arguing points. No fellow
conservative i know wants the helpless, the aged, and those out of work
through no fault of their own to suffer. Unfortunately, the entitlement
programs of social security and medicare/medicaid are NOT funding
themselves, mostly because they are taking in people they were never
meant to cover (the number of S/S disabled has doubled in the past 3
years - this makes no logical sense). The Social Security system was set
up in the 1930's, when the average lifespan was much lower. Only 54%
of males who survived to age 21 (and thus paid into the system to make
your argument) survived to age 65 to collect benefits, and the % for
females was only 60%. Medicare/Medicaid is not even close to funding
itself, and this will only accelerate once the ACA goes into effect.
The fact of the matter is this - Those elderly and poor that your
liberal mind has been brainwashed into believing will be thrown under
the bus by us heatless Conservatives will certainly suffer if we go the
way of Greece or Spain, both nations that refused to accept the reality
that they could not continue to spend more than they took in.
Yeah, someone actually wrote this to me. So after consulting my liberal brainwashed mind. I decided to look for facts. Thank God for Wikipedia and Politifact. So I actually wasted more time writing back to this Conservative troll.
We
won't go the way of Greece or Spain. We are not in the EURO. Fact. Here
are some facts you might not like, George W. Bush, the forty-third
president, Republican, 2001-2009 added $6 trillion to the national debt.In the last weeks of his presidency, President Bush approved a $1.4
trillion dollar bail out following the sub-prime lending fiasco.Under Obama’s watch, debt held by the public had increased by about $4.5
trillion, or roughly 72 percent. Total debt had increased by nearly $5
trillion, or about 47 percent. By either form of debt, the amounts
added during Obama’s administration were not greater than the levels on
the day he took office. Go to Politifact for facts. So according to you,
and your unbrainwashed mind, we should not be taking care of the people
who have caused SS and disability to double. Also there is the problem
of people living longer, just let them die in the streets, that's cheap.
The ACA will go into effect because Republicans would not compromise.
Because they ARE heartless. Maybe we could look at Bush's tax cuts. The
non-partisan Congressional Research Service has estimated the 10-year
revenue loss from extending the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts beyond 2010 at
$2.9 trillion, with an additional $606 billion in debt service costs
(interest), for a combined total of $3.5 trillion.[31]. So worried about
debt and SS running out of money, where could all the money be? We are
the richest nation in the world right? According to Merrill Lynch and
Gemini Consulting's “World Wealth Report” for 2000, one third of the
wealth of the world's “high net-worth individuals”—nearly $6 trillion
out of $17.5 trillion—may now be held offshore. A large portion, £6.3tn,
of offshore assets, is owned by only a tiny sliver, 0.001% (around
92,000 super wealthy individuals) of the world's population. The
enormous size of the offshore funds demonstrates that traditional
measures of social inequality are wholly inadequate in presenting the
actual gap between rich and poor.[13]. There are so many factors
contributing to "the fact" that our country's problems can be solved.
However, as long as Conservatives cry because we are poor and we don't
have money to take care of our citizens and you don't even ask why? It
is no accident, this is a perfect storm that has been well thought out.
No conservatives you know want the helpless, aged and those out of work
to suffer? So what exactly are you suggesting? All I see is a lot of
panic over the "entitlements" "not funding themselves" but not one
single idea, like taxing offshore revenue, or actually auditing the
Pentagon, and the colossal waste going on there, but that is okay, cause
they don't spend as much as SS, which means what exactly? Is this more
Puritanical bootstrap, I got mine, go out and get yours mentality I see?
As in "those that are out of work through no fault of their own"
Implying, there are all those deadbeats that just won't work? The
suspicion that someone, somewhere is getting entitlements, because "the
number of SS/disabled has doubled in the last 3 years, and it makes no
logical sense? Oh yes it does. We are living through the Greater
Depression. So go ahead and argue back, while the "trickle down" economy
pisses all over the American dream. Meanwhile, people protest in the
streets and are beaten and pepper sprayed. (Liz Cheney had a protest
also, virtually shutting down Manhattan with a gigantic stage and she
didn't get arrested) There I go with another "strawman". So be very
afraid, but not because America will go the way of Greece and Spain,
there is an American Spring coming, the American people want to live in a
sane and humane country, and they will prevail. Do you even get that
people are suffering? You better hope things don't get worse. Greece and
Spain will be the least of your problems.
That's where I ended my cliched, Liberal diatribe, I hear and read this stuff all the time about "entitlements" and we're going broke and we can't pay for it. But there are no ideas on how to fix this mess other than the very old and non-creative austerity ritual. No one can come up with anything other than to make our fellow citizens that are hurting, suffer even more.
My question is why? It is 2012, we should be more enlightened and compassionate. Why is there so much panic about the Social Security program but no one is looking at all the legislation that is passed, giving agribusiness and others what amounts to corporate welfare, and we cry over taking care of the sick, poor and elderly? If I am brainwashed, I am glad, I don't want to live in a Conservative world where everyone is out for themselves.
My question is why? It is 2012, we should be more enlightened and compassionate. Why is there so much panic about the Social Security program but no one is looking at all the legislation that is passed, giving agribusiness and others what amounts to corporate welfare, and we cry over taking care of the sick, poor and elderly? If I am brainwashed, I am glad, I don't want to live in a Conservative world where everyone is out for themselves.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/23/austerity-wall-street_n_1690838.html?utm_hp_ref=fb&utm_campaign=072412&utm_medium=email&utm_content=NewsEntry&utm_term=Daily+Brief&src=sp&comm_ref=false
ReplyDeleteWho really benefits from "austerity"? Read this from the Huffington Post. You won't be surprised.
Jim, it really freaks me out, all this talk of hysteria tells me, if we don't learn from the past, we are doomed to repeat it. People don't seem to remember that Germany's austerity measures empowered Hitler. I could totally see something like that happening here with the stupidity, arrogance and outright greed that seems to be in control, everywhere.
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